We had a recent question about Lung worm and irritated lungs in a goat, as well as wanting to be ready for an upcoming kidding. I'm sharing my notes.
Besides helping her body be a place that lungworm doesn't want to reside (DWA (tm)) she may need some additional lung support. If she has damage there- remember that is tender tissue that can be irritated with every breath containing particulate in it (ever see dusty barn air in a sunbeam?) I would look at BreatheDeeplee(tm) herb mix to give that support. It will take some time as the lungs aren't allowed to rest while they heal themselves.
I will also list other suggestions based on info in your email. Do or don't do as you feel led.
If you want for her you could also consider MMune (tm) as she probably is more susceptible to other potential issues at this time.
IF you think she may have a bacterial or viral issue starting (WATCH HER FOR ANY SIGN OF FEVER!) or if you just want to rule that out before there would be problems please look at HerBiotic (tm) herb mix.
For your pregnant doe if you want look at BetterDaze(tm) herb mix.
Kop-Sel if you are in a selenium/copper deficient area for support if you want herbal support.
PrePare(tm) for prekidding reproductive organ support.
Ewe-Ter-N(tm) herb mix given on kidding day, just before (or sometimes during) kidding, and after if afterbirth doesn't drop in 20 minutes.
GI Soother(tm) is extremely popular for raising kids that are in coccidia or barberpole areas.
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Here are some natural, whole herb, thoughtfully build and popular products to help you support your dogs or other animals in dealing with this and other parasite issues.
For my creatures I would want to give DWormA(tm) to them every two hours the first day (waking hours) double dosed from regular label dose. Then 4x a day for 2 days and then 3 x a day for 3 days. If possible fast your animal on the first day. Do not fast them if they are pregnant or very weak. It can also be used with any nonsymptomatic animals. Since the three month the life cycle is so long on whips, they can have them for a long time before they shed any eggs to catch in a fecal. They also tend to be tricky to catch by fecal since they reside way down in the Cecum (between the small intestine and the ascending colon). The herbs will not harm any dog or animal that doesn't need it, but rather will nourish them. Then consider anywhere from giving it once a day for two times a week, to 6 out of 7 days each week if you want to feed it that often you can. Their eggs can stay in the environment for years including through heavy freezes so once you find your animals have had these it's very important to stay on a regular program. Clean what you can in their environment. This product also helps the body deal with any possible hemorrhaging that could be caused by that parasitic load.
Other considerations include their interior intestinal environment that allows parasites to flourish. I would use BetterBowels(tm) on non livestock animals if I ran into that problem. Livestock don't usually need this due to the large amounts of roughage that they eat. Start the bowel product the second week after beginning the DWorm A. Try not to give them at the same time. Dogs that are on processed food (kibble) or cooked food and /or those that strain to defecate are more susceptible to parasites than those that are raised raw food (assuming there is a large quantity of raw fruit and vegetables in that raw diet). Lightly steamed is fine.
BetterDaze(tm) herb mix will give their bodies what they need to supernourish the blood and cells that the parasites have stripped. It will also provide what their body needs to rebuild iron in the bloodstream, safely helping the body to recover itself from an anemia issues and do so naturally.
MMune(tm) herb mix can be used to support any animals dealing with immunity issues which also makes them more susceptible to parasites. Animals near birthing (about ten percent of their gestation before they birth and ten percent afterwards will naturally have reduced immune system function that parasites like to take advantage of and of course having parasites compromises immunity of the host.
All of these products can be found under products and then herb mixes at www.firmeadowllc.com where we offer hope to those facing challenges with their human and animal families!
Wild birds are so fun to watch. We have several species that visit our feeders and we love to identify and watch them. But what about those in our barn or with our chickens? Now that's another story! Birds of course can leave waste in feeders and spread diseases to poultry as they hop around going after stray feed. Birds can as hop on coccidia and then hop in your animal feeders and place their coccidia, e coli , etcetera onto their eating areas. So it's better if they do not mix with your animal feeding areas.
There are a few things one can do to minimize or avoid these things. First is if you like to feed birds as we do, is to keep their feeding stations far from poultry and livestock feeding areas. Another thing is to only feed your poultry and stock what they can consume at that feeding and to feed it in containers that avoid waste. Feeders that can be picked up and moved after feeding should be removed and put in a feed room or other place not accessible to them. Also, most birds will enter your barns or sheds from higher. Closing off gaps between eves and other openings with one inch poultry wire or woven hardware cloth so that fresh air movement is still allowed over head but birds aren't allowed to land and hop in will reduce the amount of birds entering your barn areas. Even old screening can often be obtained for free and be upcycled this way. Keeping barn doors closed when possible also helps. Also keeping a barn cat (keep it healthy & chlamydia free!) in the barn can also reduce wild bird populations. I personally don't do this because of problems with cats using hay for their bathroom. For poultry's safety from wild birds (as well as weasels!) it is best to use a one inch poultry netting for their pens, housing, chicken tractor and supplemental feeding areas. Two inch netting, while cheaper, allows birds and small predators in. It also deteriorates faster allowing foxes and raccoons a greater likelihood of getting to your birds.
Another way to combat this is to be sure your animals and poultry are the healthiest they can possibly be! We achieve this by supplementing poultry with LayNLayer herb mix or BetterDaze herb mix as well as decrease their parasite challenges with DWormA and GI Soother for coccidial challenges and MMune herb mix for any that need that additional support for their immune systems such as weak, old, recovering or senior creatures. For livestock we offer the same products (of course they don't need the LayNLayer!).
BLESSINGS TO ALL OF YOU- YOU, YOUR HUMAN FAMILY AND YOUR CREATURE FAMILY :D
KM in Southern Oregon wrote, " thanks! I've been using 3-5 day protocol of GI soother and DWorm every 3-6 months for my Donkeys for past 5 years. Vet did fecal last week and they are clean. How awesome is that!?"
Climate- Moderate to low temperature wet winters and springs with little snow, hot dry summers into mid fall.
Here's a story that came to me today from KH in Texas, "A fellow breeder (CM also Texas) recommended your DA Wormer (DWorm A- added for clarification) and GI Soother for our goats and I have to tell you how much I am impressed with these products. We bought a wether as a companion to one of our bucks in May and he had a bad case of cocci and worms. He has been on this product, along with the rest of our herd, and I did fecals today and found nothing!! I will be recommending your product even more than I already have. This stuff really works. Thanks so much!"
Also shared this weekend, "love this product our goats have never ever had a problem all the years we have been using this product." KF in Tennesee on DWorm A
Even better- herbal nutrients support your animal rather than toxify them. Parasite resistance does not become an issue when working with herbs either! Master of Herbology formulated with life long livestock/horse/pet/poultry experience including an internationally recognized herd of LaMancha dairy goats.
Herb Mix GI Soother™ OG WC 8 oz Also available in 16 ounce size!
Also look for DWorm A, available in 16 and 8 ounce sizes.
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A client of mine shared a story today. I've heard similar stories a few times from customers about their dogs. This is the first time I"ve heard one from a goat owner... Anyhow WB in Vermont shared today that last year after she started her goats on our DWorm A (tm) and our GI Soother (tm) that her goats would come back from their wooded walks and instead of live ticks she'd find dead ticks on them, that would then fall off. They would leave behind bumps that would heal without her having to do anything for them. However, this year, now that she is on her second year of using them- they are coming out of their wooded browse walks without any ticks on them, and no skin problems or bites to heal. She is just now starting her guardian dog (who has already been diagnosed with lyme and anaplasmosis) on the same program. She has been picking 20 to 30 ticks off of her dog after their daily walk, so it will be interesting to see how long it takes before her body is able to be distasteful to them.
For Lyme support I recommend HerBiotic. When we lived in Southern Oregon and I would pull ticks off of my LGD's I would always follow up by putting HerBiotic salve on the bite area as well as giving them HerBiotic orally. We never had any problems though lyme is in that area. Better Daze (tm) herb mix is always a great choice to increase the nutritional levels helping the animals body to rebound faster. MMune (tm) herb mix is also available to boost systems.
For humans I recommend Dr. Christopher's Super Immune Garlic extract which we sell on our website at a discount. It can be taken daily if needed if you are in a high tick area and want to aid your body's ability to reduce problems from possible exposure. Vitalerbs is also always a bonus to increase nutritional levels on any body that is under stress.
Are you already dealing with Lyme disease or other related infections in your family, pets or farm? Order a consultation today under our services tab to let our Master of Herbology help you develop a plan tailored specific to your situation.
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Wishing all of you a BLESSED summer season!
I frequently get help requests to educate owners on helping animals overcome a large parasite problem. Ideally one wants to be proactive with these problems and stay ahead of it, but there are times of course whether one is new to livestock keeping, brings in a new but very infected animal to the farm, tries to stabilize a rescue or just having major life events turning one's life upside down for a time. Here are some things to consider.
There are two products that are the most frequently purchased from our site from these problems. Those are DWorm A tm and GI Soother tm. DWorm A tm is for all species, pregnant, lactating or open and is historically used with most types of internal parasites including tapeworms. GI Soother tm is our traditional approach of choice for coccidia and barberpole worm (Haemoncus contortus). It can also be used for pregnant, lactating or open animals of any kind. We also have DWorm H tm under the extracts/tinctures page for heartworm and heart support as well as DWorm MLL tm for menengial/liver fluke and lung worm, though keeping animals on a consistent regular dosing with DWorm A tm helps their bodies to be less susceptible to those problems. For the herb mixes here is the page to find them. /www.firmeadowllc.com/store/c4/Herb_Mixes_%26_Supplies.html
Realize that with this protocol one is going to use the products much faster than one would with routine dosing once animals are in an improved state of wellness. So if you decide to work with our products you might order one more pound than you think necessary of each item you order. It will keep for one year in good conditions and many clients have used them older than that, though I don't recommend that for best results. Remember that to wait too long will endanger the animal's life. There are many stories however of animals seeming to be too far gone that do turn around to become healthy and productive. So I always encourage people to go for it. You just never know.
So if I found this problem in my herd, flock or kennel:
Day one give a double dose of each product every two hours for several doses- 8 would be great. as much of a pain as it is to drench them this is probably your best bet to get on top of it to start. Later you can get them used to eating it in grain, with other substances (like applesauce or mashed banana) or making herb balls click here for that blog.
IF you are dealing with a coccidia overload and your animal is failing fast I would give a triple dose of GI Soother tm every hour until the creature stabilizes, then go back to the rest of dosing suggested below.
Day 2 and three if you can give a double dose 4x per day,
day 4 thru ten double dose 2x per day.
Then twice per week after that EXCEPT for animals that seem weaker, underweight etc- those I would keep on GI Soother tm every day until they catch up on weight and health as it will help their gi tract repair itself from parasite damage and scar tissue. that may be 4 months or possibly a year dependent on their damage.
GI Soother tm and/or DWorm A tm can be used daily if wanted. The products also help the body to stop hemorrhaging, help the body fight infections in the GI tract, help to mineralize the body and DWorm A also helps the body to absorb toxins/molds in food just ingested as well as helping to stimulate the liver and oxygenate the placenta in pregnant creatures.
You will want to pay attention to cleaning and sanitizing your facilities including pastures if they are infected. You can learn more about that and so much more to natural goat keeping from my book- The Accessible Pet, Equine and Livestock Herbal also on our site. Over 500 pages. Click here to purchase the book.
One can also consider adding Better Daze tm herb mix to their creature's diet to super nourish them. They need their bodies to be built up again since the parasites have probably put them in a state of deficiency.
For weak animals MMune tm herb mix (click here) can also be considered to help thier bodies to support their immunity, which will be challenged with a large parasite load. It's also challenged around the two weeks prior to two weeks after birthing time period so is another good time for immunity support. It is also an important time to be sure your deworming program is on par, as parasites will and do take advantage of their hosts during this weakened time. For puppies it is so easy to stir in DWorm A tm in their supplemental feeding and will help them feed themselves rather than parasites.
For a wonderful story shared with me in 2016 about these products in a very difficult area to deal with parasites (Texas) it may be fun for you to read this blog post. Click here.
Wishing you and yours ABUNDANT WELLNESS!!!
Well built high quality medicinal dewormers always cause a reduction in diarrhea- right? Well, not always. Here are some reasons when you may see diarrhea.
Herb Mix DWorm A ™ 16 oz (parasites, mycoplasma) 1- A fast parasite die off can cause diarrhea. This is caused in animals with a high parasite load. To get the best benefit from herbal dewormers you will want to break parasite lifecycles before they reach adulthood and the ability to do damage to your creature and reproduce. Most animals are infecting themselves daily from grazing, eating or licking soil or bedding, getting feet with manure on them into feed (avoid allowing chickens to walk on hay, etc) and licking fencing, stall walls, etc. Parasites on the average reach maturity within just three weeks of ingestion but have been doing tissue damage to their host before that point. Because a new cycle is started up to daily with new ingestions I suggest at least a once a week feeding, but more frequently if you live in a wet/humid climate or have an animal or animals that are more susceptible to parasite attacks, including young, senior and those with impaired immune systems. Our MMune TM herb mix can also be fed to those creatures if wanted. Get DwormA TM Click Herb Mix DWorm A ™ 16 oz (parasites, mycoplasma)
Get MMune TM Click Herb Mix MMune™ 8 oz
2- Sometimes a creature gets into something else in their feed or environment that causes diarrhea, and sometimes that coincides wtih the use of a new product. In those cases one doesn't know if it's something environmental or the herbs. DWormA TM has been formulated to help the body absorb and release ingested toxins through the manure. This also may cause loose stools.
3- A creature who's nutrition level is increased faster than the microbes in their rumen and/or intestinal tract is used to. If this is the case back down to half of the dose you were using for a few days (about three) and then gradually work their body back up to the dose you want them on. Ten days is considered an average amount of time to allow the flora to adjust to changes in diet.
4- Liver and gall bladder stimulation (note that equine and camelids do not have gall bladders) may cause loose stools, especially in an animal where these functions have been below optimum. Our herbal dewormer does encourage liver and gallbladder function. If you believe your animal may have an impaired or challenged liver from toxins in their feeds, meds or environmental then consider supporting those organs with our FreshStart TM . Get FreshStart TM here Herb Mix FreshStart™ (Liver, GallBldr, Kidneys) 8 oz
5- Scar damage to the intestinal walls from previous high parasite or coccidia loads can also make it difficult to get ahead of a diarrhea- but in these cases it usually would not start the same time an herbal dwormer would be started. In cases where it is believed that the creature may have malabsorption issues consider putting them on GI Soother TM for at least a year, longer if they still need to catch up on growth to what size & weight you think they should be. This product is very gentle and nurturing to the intestinal tract and encourages it to heal itself while also helping the body deal with coccidia, barberpole worms, ulcers and bacterial assaults to the GI. This product can be used concurrently with DWorm A TM and both products can be used with any creature. In this case it may take weeks or months for the body to correct a malabsorption issue but the tissue will want to heal if it gets what it needs. In these cases expect to be fighing diarrhea for some time until the intestinal tissue softens. Adding BetterDaze TM herb mix to thier nutritional program will help the body to heal itself faster with its wide range of vitamins, minerals and nutrients and can lessen the effects of malnutrition at a faster rate. Get GI Soother TM here Herb Mix GI Soother™ Cocci Diarrhea Barberpole Ulcer support 16 oz
Get Better Daze TM here Herb Mix BetterDaze™ 8 oz
There are also diseases such as Johnes that can cause diarrhea, but again, that is a problem that one would not expect to start concurrent with the start of using herbal dewormers.
Be Very Blessed! Katherine MH CA CR DIPHiR CEIT QTP
I give herbs to my stock several ways. For my horses, I mix them with a mash. For my livestock guardian dogs and chickens we mix them with extra goat milk. And for my sometimes picky goats, I mix some of them in kelp (kop-sel), sometimes drench (usual method I use for HerBiotic -viral/bacterial stuff) with a liquid like raw goat milk or fresh carrot juice , or put in the kids milk lam-bar - often GI Soother, DWorm A and/or Better Daze. And sometimes I will mix a bit of olive oil with them and mix that with their grain. But for the milkers, bucks and weaned kids when it comes to DWorm A and sometimes other herbs or products (MMune, Better Daze, etc) I often pull out my apron and chef hat to make herb balls.
First you will want to collect a mixing bowl, mixing spoon, 1 cup and 1/2 cup measuring cups, a teaspoon, a knife, spatula, clean work surface, a labelled ziplock bag or storage container and about a tablespoon of olive oil in a small container. You will also want your herb mix and something to roll the balls into such as sprouted grain, herb powder, cinnamon or in my case I grabbed a handful of rolled oats.
To make 32 doses for a 100 to 200 lb animal (48 for a 75 to 100 lb animal) I take 1 cup of herb powder and mix in 1/2 cup of the molasses until well mixed. Then I drop my oats onto the work surface before placing my herbs onto that. I oil my hands a bit and pat down the mix before oiling my knife or spoon to cut it for approximate dose sizes. With 32 doses it's easy- just half it to 16 doses, half each section again for 8 doses per section, again for 4, 2 then a single dose. With 48 doses you can half it down to the three dose size then cut that last segment into thirds.
Then I oil my hands again and roll them into balls, then roll in the mix and put in my labelled container. I can now go out and feed them, put them with their grain at feed or milking time, or store them in the fridge for a week or freezer for up to a year. Some goats take time getting used to them, but many will take them after a couple of tries. If I go in my doe pen with them I get MOBBED!
Products mentioned can all be purchased under the herb mixes section of this website.
That is a question I get asked frequently and is a huge question as people are concerned about parasites becoming more and more resistant to the chem dewormers available. I'll share a story from CM in Texas for you. I'm going to x out superlatives that aren't neccessary to the story ;).
"First off, our vet is a "Good Ol' Boy" country vet, who raises meat goats, and if he didn't learn something in vet school at Texas A&M, it is NOT a valid treatment, medicine, etc. Herbal and natural remedies to him are all a bunch of xx. He's a great vet for surgeries, injuries, and things I can't do, but boy, do we clash on A LOT of things, LOL!
Well, when we first went to see him 2 yrs ago for a pregnancy test for two of our goats, we had only had our Nigerian Dwarf Goats about 6 months (they were also our first goats ever). At the end of the visit; he asked me which wormer I was using for our then four girls, and I told him, "I use an Herbal Wormer made by Fir Meadows".
He gave me a smirk and a laugh, then proceeded to give me an earful on how all those herbal wormers are xx that do not work; especially here in Texas with all the drug resistant parasites. After the rant; he asked me if I wanted Cydecton, or some other chemical wormer to take home. I politely told him I would stick to the herbal stuff for now. He said, "Cynthia; I know you're new to goats, but the first time we get a big rain around here; you're going to have goats dropping dead from parasites if you try to rely on your herbal hoo-doo, voo-doo xx".
He was getting a little xx, and making me actually worry that maybe out here there herbal stuff wouldn't be enough, so I said, "ok, well could you do a fecal on the two goats here today, just so I know what our parasite load is currently like?" He smiled and said "I think that's a great idea", and I know he was hoping the goats were loaded to prove herbal wormers were indeed xx.
So he took the samples, ran the tests, and when he came back in the exam room, his face was as red as a tomato. He said, "I can't believe I'm saying this, but keep using that herbal wormer....BOTH of your goats had a parasite count of ZERO, which in 25 years, I've never seen." It was priceless, and he has never brought up wormer to me again, LOL!!
Then, we have a doe who had twins in early May, twins were weaned mid-August, but since then, this doe has been losing weight like crazy. I kept upping her food, but she was not putting on weight. I was perplexed and starting to panic. On Wednesday I noticed she had lumps on both sides of her jaw, and I opened her mouth to find she was packing her cud inside her cheeks. Called our vet, who said it sounded like a tooth problem, and to bring her in Thursday, but he was going to be out of town so we would have to see a vet we had never seen at the clinic.
Took our goat "LB" to the clinic yesterday, and sure enough, she had a cracked tooth that was rotting, so the vet pulled it, and so far, so good. The new vet was a lady who's son used to raise dairy goats for
4-H, and since she was very familiar with goats, she said, "Do you mind if I run a fecal test? I just want to make sure everything is good since Lexi lost so much weight so fast." I said sure, I'd love to know what her fecal count is!
Vet ran the test, came out and said, "Um, what in the world are you worming with? Lexi's parasite count is ZERO! I ran the test three times, because I thought something was wrong. I've been a vet for 19 years, and a goat with a zero parasite count in Texas is just unheard of!!"
I told her I used Fir Meadow's Herbal Wormer, and her jaw dropped. She had to run take care of a dog with a rattlesnake bite, but as she was running down the hall, she yelled over her shoulder, "Cynthia! Please leave the name of the herbal wormer you use with the receptionist!!"
So now your wormer has completely shocked two of the vets at our clinic, LOL!!! :)"
The answer, according to this customer and her veterinarians is Yes. My note is that you need to make sure you are using the right products in the right doses for the right parasites and that you are using them frequently enough for the level of challenge on your property and level of wellness/infestation of your animals. Then yes! We have several Master of Herbology products for you to view on our website- DWorm A (stomach worms, tapeworms), GI Soother (coccidia and barberpole (Hc) , DWorm MLL (tincture - liver/lung/menengial), DWorm H (tincture- heartworm),and HerBiotic (normally for bacterial, viral, microbial, fungal, yeast but also helpful for giardia).
Yesterday I was asked once again about wormwood. Many people have legitimate concerns, having heard that wormwood isn't safe during pregnancy. Due to the controversy about this herb I spend extra timing researching it when I was studying for my Master's Degree in Herbology. I can also throw in over a decade of personal use with this plant with humans and pets/livestock.
First the concern. It IS true that if your animals get out and scarf a large amount of wormwood at once that they may lose a pregnancy or have convulsions. The truth is that overeating on ANY plant can cause acidosis, entertoxemia or other problems specific to that plant. Also using this plant in tincture form or oil form highly concentrates the phyto (plant) chemicals in this plant- namely the thujone- greatly increasing the risk of having an adverse effect. Absinthe, made with wormwood as one of the ingredients for several centuries, caused many problems in those that became addicted to it.
However, used in it's whole plant form, and in quantities no where close to the 'goats got out and ate a big patch of it' situation this herb has much value to offer. It's helpful in gi and distresses, aids bile movement and liver function, helps protect the liver from plant toxins that are ingested around the same time, aids the body in oxygenating the uterus as well as having natural antibiotic properties. Most people are aware of it's anthelmintic (worm removing) properties. It's also historically used as a tanaecide to help the body kill tapeworms. It's a very valuable plant and I love using it with my pregnant goats, alpacas and horses due to the uterine enhancing and toxin protecting properties within my DWorm A herb blend that we sell on our website.
May you be fully blessed!
Katherine MH, CR, CA, CEIT, DipHIr, QTP has extensive alternative training in Vitalistic (cause oriented) wellness,including a Master's Degree in Herbology and has a heart to share with you so that you, your family and your creatures may achieve abundant wellness.